by Calvin D. Banyan
Hello Everybody,
Cal Banyan here, back for another Hypnosis, Etc., with Celeste Hackett and you caught me reading my newest Journal of Hypnotism, for the National Guild of Hypnotists. I was reading up on how important it is for us all, every professional Hypnotist, in the country, probably around the world to become a member of the Hypnotist union. Let me tell you what, the Hypnotist union is the National Federation of Hypnotists, its OPEIU Local 104 FLCIO and CLC.
Now, this is a little bit different than a lot of us think about uh, unions. You think about people picketing plants and stuff like that, this is a professional union, and what the professional union does is, it helps to protect the rights of a profession. And so the Hypnotist union is something you should join because they are better able to help you; the more members there are in your state or country. Uh, they’ve just done a tremendous job of helping some people, uh some Hypnotists in Canada to remain in practice.
And they’re working very hard to help Hypnotists, uh you know, around and across the United States, to remain practicing because there’s a power out there; professions that would love to see all Hypnotists, non licensed Hypnotists like you and I, professionals in Hypnotism, not be able to practice.
So this is another very good reason for you to join, first the National Guild of Hypnotists because you get this great Journal and a bunch of other stuff. But I’m not going to really get into this today, because it’s not the purpose of today’s’ umm program. But a good reason for you to join the union.
And while you’re in here, you’ll find all kinds of great articles, all kinds of great articles. I have a regular article that’s in here, been here for years where I write about successful Hypnosis and then also, there’s uh, like Scot Giles, he’s our legal liaison between the National Guild of Hypnotists and the really the profession and different states. Let me tell you one thing about the National Guild of Hypnotists and they work directly with the union, they’re not out just to protect the rights of people who are members of the Guild, they really want to protect rights of Hypnotists every where. Alright, well that’s it, I wanted to bring that up. Celeste, you probably didn’t expect that, umm, do you have that Journal?
Celeste: Yes, I have the Journal, I don’t have it right here on my desk, umm. But people just need to know that the union means protection and that’s the basic, the basic premise of the union and it’s really going to help you. And the National Guild of course, like you said, one of the things that makes me so happy, is that they’re just out to protect all Hypnotists. And, since we’re talking about these kinds of things, it’s a nice idea to get Malpractice Insurance too, if you’re practicing Hypnotists, that just helps you.
Cal: That’s right, you should always use protection, isn’t that right, Celeste?
Celeste: Yes, especially when you’re in such close contact uh, such, you’re so close with other people, working with other people. Umm, and I actually am reading a Journal of my own, it is the National Enquirer and, I guess what got me reading this today, is because, you know, there are so many different uh, stories about stars and celebrities on drugs and uh, having relationship problems and Cal Banyan’s in California, and I’m just putting the pressure on him, you need to help these people, Cal.
But actually, they umm, you know, they’re just regular people, they have same problems that we have and uh, just kind of reading through it and going, hmm, you know it would be nice, if, because they’re in the news if some of these people would, would really understand how Hypnosis is probably better than rehab for a lot of them. And how much more quickly it works, so they can get right back to work, doing what they love.
Cal: Well, you’re right, and you know, one of the reasons I moved too, one of the reasons I moved to California is I wanted to help those poor celebrities, that was one of the reasons I moved to California from Minnesota. And all kidding aside is, I’ve actually worked with some people that uh, have some celebrity status, as they say, but of course, in our profession you can’t uh, let those names out, that would be wrong, wrong, wrong. But umm, let’s see, what else you got for us today, Celeste?
Celeste: Well, umm, a Hypnotist wrote in about a client with needle phobia, and she wanted to know how to work with this client with needle phobia and she also wanted to know if the needle phobia is medical slash inherited, because she read on the internet that it was?
Cal: Okay, hey, you know what, I think that umm, probably fears and phobias of all kinds are some of the easiest stuff we work with, don’t you think, Celeste?
Celeste: Yeah, absolutely. Umm, you know, I’ve worked with several different apprehensions, fears, and phobias. Uh everybody that I can recall that’s come into my office with this problem, uh, after we’ve done the work, it’s a process, they don’t have their fear or phobia anymore. This is a very easy thing to do.
Cal: Yeah, as for people who have advanced training in hypnosis, I’m fiddling with stuff in the background, because I was thinking about drawing a, uh, a diagram, so umm, I might have a diagram that might help me explain some things here or I might just draw pictures in the air. Umm, the question is, this is, I’m glad you asked this toward the beginning of the program here, because I’m hearing a couple of different things.
One, what is my opinion on nature uh, versus nurture? Is it something that is inherited, or is it something that comes about because of circumstances in the person’s life? And I’m also hearing about umm, you know, what do you think about how to work on the issue? So, first of all, let me take on this word, phobia, phobias, the word phobia, is kind of a medical, psychological term and uh, it has worked its way into the popular vocabulary.
Uh, but as professional Hypnotists we want to be careful of using that term, because, if you pronounce that someone has a phobia, then it could appear to some other professions that you’re practicing medicine without a license or psychology without a license and we certainly wouldn’t want that to happen. So, uh, because there’s a thing called the Diagnostic and Statistical manual, I think uh, Psychologists are on version 4 right now. And uh, they use certain things in the manual to precisely diagnose whether something’s phobic or not and the diagnosis then helps them decide what kind of treatment is going to happen.
And if you’re a Hypnotist and you’re not a Psychologist, you’re not a Psychiatrist, a psychiatrically trained professional of some sort, then you really shouldn’t really do that, and you shouldn’t use, you shouldn’t label someone with the term phobia or phobic that kind of thing. So what we do is, we’ll just call it a fear, an exaggerated fear, an exaggerated fear of some sort. Uh now, if the person has come to you by way of referral from a licensed professional medical or psychological, and they’ve been diagnosed with a phobia, then you should use the term phobia.
It’s been referred to you, they’ve been diagnosed, you’re not making the diagnosis and you can certainly use the term phobia in uh, your notes that you keep. Uh, if you do a case history on it you can call it phobia, whatever it is. So that’s the phobia issue. Now, let me talk real briefly about an overview of how you handle it. There are 3, as you know we’re 5-PATHers here, 5-Phase Advanced, see I just changed the name, and now I’m going to mess up on it, used to be a different name. Now it’s 5-Phase Advanced Transformational Hypnosis, okay, we call it 5-PATH all the time, so sometimes I forget the long name.
So 5 Phases, not 5 sessions; and two of the most important that I’m going to talk about right now are 1, 2, and 5, Phase 1, is preparation, testing and convincing phase, that’s where you prepare the client for hypnosis. You then do the induction and then you test for the proper level of hypnosis and then you convince the client that they’re hypnotized by doing what? Overt testing. For example, you might do an eye lock test, or you might do an arm catalepsy test, these kinds of things.
Where they know they’re being tested and they will know if they pass or fail. Before you do that, you should always do covert testing for a deeper level of hypnosis. Alright, so once that’s done and you’ve established through covert testing that you have the proper level of hypnosis to do Phase 2, which is Age Regression work. What you want to do is, do Affect Bridge, Age Regression work and what you will do is, you will have the person bring the feeling up that they get when they think about or when they are around needles and you will then have them follow that feeling back.
It’s called Affect Bridge, because affect means like emotion, so you bring up the feeling that they get, in which this case is fear and you tell them to follow that feeling back to an earlier time you felt that way, then when you get to that event you need to ask them 5 questions……what are the fabulous 5, Celeste?
Celeste: What’s happening? What’s that make you think? What do you make of that or uh, and also what does that make you feel? And uh, is that feeling familiar or new?
Cal: I think that’s 4, Celeste.
Celeste: Oh, what’s happening, what’s that make you think, what’s that make you feel, is that feeling uh, familiar or new? What am I missing?
Cal: What’s happening? Then you want to get the cognitive component, so you ask them what are you thinking? And then you want to get the emotional component, and we say what are you feeling, should be fear? And then we say, is it familiar or new? And number 5 is, here’s your second chance, Celeste?
Celeste: How old are you?
Cal: That’s right, how old are you? Okay, so that’s the five questions we get that data and if they say it’s familiar, that means to us what? That feeling has existed before that gives us permission to give them the suggestion and now follow that feeling back to an earlier time you felt that way. And so you will start off in the now, you bring up the emotion, tell them to go back to an earlier time and then if it’s familiar, you keep going back like that until you can establish that the feeling is new.
Now once that’s done, you have what we call the Initial Sensitizing Event, and all the events you visited before that is called Subsequent Sensitizing Events. And then, what we want to do, and here’s the important point, there’s a few really important points here, is we want to go before that event, and what, we want to neutralize the cause of the event. How do you do that? Now here’s an insider tip, trick, or technique, ok. When you’re in that ISE, you ask them those 5 questions, What’s happening? What are you thinking? What are you feeling? How old are you? And, Is it familiar or new? Of course, in this case, it should be new.
But out of those questions, the most important answer to get with regard to solving this problem is what are you thinking? Because when you get what you are thinking, I mean what the client was thinking, you get to the cause of the problem. Because, let me tell you a little bit about emotions and how they’re generated, first we perceive something, then we give that perception meaning.
As either, you know what we intend, expected the circumstance that we just perceived as going to umm, satisfy or not satisfy a need, want or desire. If we perceive it as not likely to perceive, to uh, satisfy one of our needs, wants, or desires, for example, for safety and security, we will then feel a painful emotion. So it’s perception, meaning and then emotions are generated, and in this case, fear.
So when we get back to that ISE, that very first event, we want to make sure you know we want to make sure that we find out what they’re thinking. Because if they’ve got an exaggerated emotion, that means they have a thought that’s not based in reality, it’s some kind of exaggerated thought and the thought is the meaning that we give to the perception, that’s what we’ve got to work with.
We then take them before the event and we have the grown up aspect of the individual and the hypnotist work together with that, usually it’s a child before the age of 5 and give them the information they need so that he or she can go through that event, that first event without picking up that misperception or that, erroneous belief about what inoculations or shots uh, means.
We can take that fear away, that exaggerated fear, by getting rid of the erroneous thought. Once we’ve done that, we test that interaction in the before ISE state, doing the informed child technique, informing that child what he or she needs to hear so she can get through that event without picking up the erroneous belief and generating the exaggerated fear. We give them that information, we will run them through that event and we can, that tests what we did in the before ISE state.
If they go through that ISE without picking up the exaggerated fear, then our informed child work has been successful. If they have a problem and the fear comes back, we again take them to before the ISE, that first event, do some more work, giving them more information about what they need to know and then run them through the ISE again.
We can do that until we’ve removed the misperceptions which what, remove the erroneous fear. And then, remember how we went back in time through these latter events, you know, maybe it was 5 years ago, then 10 years ago, then 20 years ago, and then 30 years ago was the ISE. We’ve then gone before the ISE, then we run them through the ISE and they feel safe and secure going through the event.
Then what do we do, and then we start running them through those subsequent sensitizing events without the exaggerated fear. And then here is another great tip, trick, technique and it can make the difference between success and failure with these kinds of issues. There is a reason why that individual came into your office today, not a month ago, 6 months ago, a year ago, usually there is an event coming up where they have to get that inoculation that has motivated them to come in and do the work with you.
What you want to do now is, do Age Progression work where we take them to that event bringing all these changes that have been what, that have been managed through the work that you did with them in the Age Regression work. Now we have them go into the future, and we call that Pre-vivification to live ahead of time, that’s what that word means. To go into the future, live that event, feeling safe and secure and you do that and you’ve completely collapsed the fear or phobia, be it a needle problem or spider problem or you know any of that kind of stuff. Celeste, you got anything to add to that?
Celeste: Yeah, I think everybody should, you know, who’s working with fears and apprehensions and phobias they should keep in mind that the ISE, the beginning of it all uh, may not be that traumatic, might be some little fear or something like that, that grows over time to eventually become a problem.
Cal: You know that’s an excellent point, often it’ll be just a little bit of something that over and over in the subsequent events it get reinforced and it gets worse and worse and worse. And Celeste, you remind me of something, and that is don’t be confused by symptom producing events. A lot of times, the clients will want to go back to the time where they first remembered the fear and sometimes that’s completely wrong, in fact often that’s completely wrong.
What we want to do is make sure we’re not focusing on the ideas of needles, okay, in this particular case, we want to focus on the emotion and the thought that’s generating that emotion. At least half the time that I work with this kind of thing, we will go back before the actual problem emerged as a problem or the symptom producing event. What we’ll find out is, the fear pre-existed the fear of needles and so we will go back before that and we’ll find out there’s other some kind of insecurity or fear that caused her to eventually kind of focus that fear on the needles. Good, anything else, Celeste?
Celeste: Yeah, I think also that umm, a lot of people call fears phobias, umm, you know it’s just kind of entered our everyday language, and a phobia is really different from a fear or isn’t that right Cal, or an apprehension?
Cal: Well, technically speaking, now some of you may know this; my degrees are in Psychology and a phobia is, a fear that is just not based in reality and it is usually much greater than anyone would respond to the situation. In fact most people with a, with a phobia would acknowledge, I know that this fear is silly, I know it doesn’t make sense. And so phobias are fears but they’re exaggerated fears that are simply not based in reality. Is that what you’re asking me about, Celeste?
Celeste: Yeah, you know, the person who maybe, is a little apprehensive of spiders might just go, _______ and just kind of shiver but somebody with a phobia would run out of the room screaming and bouncing off the walls from what I’ve seen anyway. It’s just, you know, way more intense but really it boils down to it’s just fear and I can already hear people saying, oh my gosh, is it safe to bring up that feeling, Cal?
Cal: Well, of course it’s safe, I mean uh there, there’s no danger in being afraid, if they’ve been afraid before and they’ve lived through it, they’re going to live through it again. I mean unless the person has a heart condition and the doctor says, oh gosh, you got to avoid all stress, all fear that kind of thing and of course your intake paperwork should cover whether or not they have a umm, medical problem or something like that.
Celeste, I want to move on to this next part, which is, I promised I would also talk about Phase 5 and so we talked about the preparation testing and convincing. I talked about the Age Regression and Progression work, I also recommend you do Phase 3 and 4, which is the forgiveness work. There is someone that caused this problem to erupt and uh, that will often get rid of secondary gain, but if secondary gain continues then you need to work specifically with that secondary gain and that is done in Phase 5, which is parts mediation work.
And basically, what we do is a normal kind of mediation procedure much like you learn in any book or school about how to do mediation between couples, individuals, companies or countries. What we’re going to do is, while the person’s in somnambulism, we can psychologically or psychically uh, divide the person into two aspects or parts. And there is the part of them that wants to change and there’s the part of them that wants to remain in the old way.
And what we will do is, work between those two and come up with a solution that is a win – win, as we always hear that’ll allow them to have the inoculations without the exaggerated fear and be able to continue on their life without losing anything. And really, secondary gain has to do with some benefit that the individual gets by having the problem. And uh, sometimes, umm maybe like in a family where the person with the problem is really young, uh, who knows, maybe they get some benefits and some special care or some control, or some special level of attention uh, because they have this fear.
And umm, it doesn’t always have to be a fear of needles, it could be a bad habit, it could be pain, it could be alcohol addiction, something like that. And sometimes, if you have a problem long enough, you’ll discover some benefits in that and in Phase 5 we will take care of that if it exists, it doesn’t always exists. Alright, Celeste, you want to add anything to that?
Celeste: Yeah, when Cal’s talking about Phase 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, he’s talking about techniques that umm, are a part of 5-PATH®. But, you can also learn these techniques as a hypnotist uh, in various places and so Phase 1 is uh, Age Regression, Phase, I’m sorry Phase 1 is umm, preparation, testing and convincing. Phase 2 is Age Regression, Phase 3 is Forgiveness of Others, then there is Forgiveness of Self and then, there is Parts and Mediation Work for those really sticky things that don’t seem to go away.
Usually, they’re from secondary gain. And so you want to be able to learn these kinds of techniques, these are the techniques that will put you in the top 1% of hypnotists in the world. Whether you call it 5-PATH® or you call it something else, I like 5-PATH®because uh, you learn this very quickly, you know, and it’s in a very easy format. And you know exactly what to do every time you do the work. But you can uh, learn this anywhere and any Hypnotist that’s doing really good work, they use these techniques; which we are calling them and putting them into Phases and calling them phases of the work, because that’s the way we talk when we talk about 5-PATH®it helps us to understand. 5-PATHers understand what we’re saying, but I just wanted to make sure that some other hypnotist who might be tuning in would understand also.
Cal: That’s right, what we do with 5-PATH® is, we organize these advanced techniques in a way that optimizes each of the techniques and that’s really what that’s all about. Alright, well, Celeste, I think that’s about all the time we have for today, you want to wrap it up?
Celeste: Yeah, I think we have to say bye now. So bye, everybody uh, I’m Celeste Hackett, I’m in Dallas Texas. This is Hypnosis, Etc., Cal Banyan’s Hypnosis, Etc., bye, everybody.
Cal: Hey Celeste, give them your website.
Celeste: Well uh, familyfirsthypnosis.com, please visit me on the web and also my blog is familyfirsthypnosis.OurHypnoSpace.com
Cal: That’s right and this is Cal Banyan from www.calbanyan.com, signing off.
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